Breeder Interview

Some of the more frequently asked questions on how we do things:

 

New Baby Info!

 

Diet - What I feed
First days with Baby
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The information above will provide you a basic idea of what to expect. If you have further questions, feel free to ask!

   

 

Plans for 2011!

 

New Species!

We are cutting back on our Hahn's Macaws, and other New World species and focusing more on the Poicephalus birds. To that end, we are planning to offer Red-Bellieds, Orange vested Senegals, and Meyers Parrots as well as Timneh Greys in 2010-2011.

   

 

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Articles

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How many different parrot species do you breed?

I currently breed two species of Aratinga Conure, two species of Pyrrhura Conure, one type of Macaw, both sub-species of Caique, four species of Old World birds, and one species of Eclectus.

Why did you choose these species to breed?

There are many species of parrot out there that are more beautiful, or exotic, but I went for birds I found to be extremely good pets. Of course, each species has its ups and downs - especially at sexual maturity! Each bird still needs consistency and boundaries set for them to retain their pet quality status also. The birds I've chosen to breed are birds I personally love and that fit well within my family which ranges from senior aged down to a teenager.

Do you ever sell unweaned babies?

I will never sell unweaned babies to people buying a pet bird.

Do you maintain a closed aviary?

Absolutely! My aviary follows the MAP Closed Concept Aviary program. I know a lot of people want to pick their baby out, but it's not worth the tragedy that would happen if disease entered my aviary or nursery. I have never had a baby bird when it has been weaned correctly and socialized correctly not bond with their owner when they meet. I know picking out a baby is a big thing, but believe me, if you came into my nursery for a Sun Conure baby and I let 5 babies out, they would all rush to you and all 5 would pick you enthusiastically.

Do you attend bird clubs and bird marts with your birds?

Absolutely NOT. I think bird marts are one of the biggest transmitters of disease for our birds. It gives new bird owners a false and deadly sense of security when bird clubs, breeders and vets sanction bird marts/fairs. There are many articles extolling the dangers of bird fairs - even on my own website! People need to realize that it's harmful for their treasured companions.

This doesn't mean people shouldn't visit bird fairs for the social aspect of it -WITHOUT their birds. Even buying a cage or some easily disinfected toys is acceptable, but I would never buy a bird from a breeder who routinely exhibited their babies or breed-stock at a bird fair, and I would caution everyone who visits a bird fair to immediately go home and wash your clothing, shoes, accessories you've brought with you and shower thoroughly before they touch their birds. Also, do not bring any objects purchased there inside until they're disinfected and cleaned completely first.

Do you ever buy unweaned babies and hand-feed them?

Yes, there are times that I do this. When I do, I work with very close friends of mine locally who follow the same principles of breeding that I do personally. I know the breed stock, their health history, and I know how they are taken care of. This is the only acceptable way I would bring in babies that weren't hatched in my nursery. That said, those babies are not reared in my nursery, but in a secondary place I use for quarantine. When the babies are tested and found clean and free of disease and viruses or infections, they are finished in my nursery.

Are your chicks routinely incubator hatched?

If at all possible, I try to allow my pairs to hatch their own young. I do have a couple of pairs that attempt to assist the chick out of the egg at times, and those pairs I do pull their eggs from. I will hatch them out, slip fake eggs back under the hen, then return their chicks to them after a successful incubator hatch if possible. There are other times when I will incubate the eggs and raise the chicks from day 1.

If parent hatched, how long do your babies stay with the parent birds before being taken from the nest for hand-feeding?

I allow my parents to feed their offspring until the eyes barely open in the babies. Babies will imprint on the parents and I want my babies to have zero preconceptions or anxieties about humans when I take them for hand-feeding.

Do you routinely give your breeding pairs a break from breeding or do they produce year round?

My breeding pairs are adjusted to climate changes and seasonal changes, so they breed as close to a natural schedule as I can possibly offer them. This allows them to have long natural breaks between clutches. While I want lots of sweet babies, I would rather have my breeding pairs remain healthy for decades to come and not burn them out as egg machines.

Can you provide photos of the parent birds and/or information about their subspecies and background (wild caught or domestic raised).

It would take me 10 minutes to walk out to my breeders, snap current shots and email photos to interested buyers. Any information on my pairs is available to people interested in my babies at any time. I keep records religiously.

Are the parent birds fed a varied diet that includes fresh foods daily?

My breeders are fed better than myself! I use fresh foods and sprouts, a good pelleted diet and a very small amount of seed. My species get fed specifically for their dietary needs. My breeders are fed the same foods as my pets and my babies. Healthy parents equal healthy babies.

What method of hand feeding do you use?

I hand-feed with a syringe. I find this affords me the most control over how much goes into a baby's mouth. While I'm experienced enough to 'power feed' babies, I find this method of feeding to be dangerous and won't do it. Spoon feeding takes far too long and cools the formula too quickly and often the baby gets so frustrated it will stop eating. Syringes are the ONLY way I feed healthy babies. I want my babies to eat slowly and taste their food, but not so slowly that it causes them to stop eating entirely.

Do you routinely gavage feed babies?

I do not gavage feed my babies at all, unless there is a medical reason for it.

How much time do you actually spend with your babies daily? How do you interact with them?

My nursery is right outside my office and I usually have a clutch in my office in a play area. I try to spend as much time with my chicks as possible. I especially like to preen them which instigates them to offer preening in return. In the wild, allo-preening is very important psychologically and it's very appreciated and comforting to hand-fed babies as well. This also allows my babies to understand that touching their whole bodies is a welcome thing and not to be feared.

Are your babies raised in isolation or with clutch mates or other babies of similar age?

Sometimes I just have one baby, and I am always sad when that happens. I want my babies to experience other clutch mates and species of birds. That gives them an edge in today's households where multi-species are common. I also allow my weaned babies to get to know adult birds as well; my personal pets. This unique technique of using my older birds to role model for the babies has proven invaluable. Not only do my babies learn they're definitely birds, but they understand 'bird' discipline in a safe manner. I also do not go to bird shows or allow my birds outside near other parrots, my pets are kept in tip-top health and maintained regularly.

Do you "discipline" your babies?

I beat them daily.   ...Just kidding! I don't feel birds need discipline in the common concept of the word. Birds need consistency and understanding. It's our responsibility to interact with birds at their level and work within their instinctual means. If a bird is getting out of hand behaviorally, then the goal is to find out why, and to counter it productively and pro-actively. This does not work with discipline. That said, I do teach my babies basic commands and manners before they leave my home. They understand and can perform  "Step up" and "Step down", as well as "Stand" or "Stay" which means they have to remain perched on the hand, not rush up the arm to the shoulder, or fling themselves into a torso for a demanded cuddle. They are also used to the words "No bite", "Gentle", and "Easy".


At what age do your babies wean?

I could give you a chart on the average weaning times per species. In reality, it varies. Some wean faster, some slower individually. I abundance wean, so I go by the specific chick. I do not believe in forcing babies to wean on a schedule, it makes for neurotic, anxious birds later in life.

What foods do you offer your weaning babies?

I use both a variety of pellets and dried fruit/nut/seed mix. My favorite is the Ultimate Blend made exclusively by Bird Paradise. To that I add additional Roudybush and Zupreem pellets. It costs more, but you can't beat that blend and all my birds - from my babies to my breeders love it! I also use freshly sprouted seeds and grains, fresh fruits and veggies in a mix twice a day, some spray millet  or Nutriberries, and at times, even some Cheerios or air popped natural popcorn! Pretty much once a baby picks at food and figures it's pretty tasty, they're willing to eat anything.

How do you socialize your babies and teach them to enjoy toys?

My babies have toys in their brooder the minute they come into the nursery from the nest. All sort of toys from hanging ones with shiny things on them, to chewable foot toys. My babies don't need to be taught to play with toys at all, because they're raised with them and are integrated into our one on one time as well. It also helps them to watch the older babies play with toys too!

As for socializing, my babies get handled several times a day by my family outside of feeding times. My daughter loves to sit with the babies surrounding her as she watches TV. The babies get to eat with us at times, and are never left to themselves except to sleep and play together. As my office is right outside the nursery, the winged ones are always flying in for an impromptu snuggle! My job is so tough! :)

Are your birds encouraged to become good flyers before their wings are clipped, and what wing clip do you use?

Absolutely! All of my babies are fledged before they're allowed to leave my aviary. They must be able to take off and land where and how they want to, turn in mid air and be comfortable in their wings before they're wing-clipped. We try first for a moderate 'baby clip' by removing the first 3 primaries and work from there to give the babies the best wing-clip with their individual needs of balance and personal security. I want my babies to glide gracefully downward, not plummet like a rock. I would rather not trim wings, but I understand that sometimes it has to happen, so I want to make sure my babies are trimmed correctly for their individual needs.

Do you flight train/harness train your babies?

I don't like the word 'harness training'. I introduce babies to the harness from the point they open their eyes. They get it draped on their bodies, used as a toy, then they wear it. They don't have any idea that it's not something that's supposed to be 'trained' into them. I call my babies harness tolerant. That means they will let you put a harness on them easily. The training, however, is up to the new owner. If the new owner forgets to put a harness on a baby for 3 months, then there will probably be some fuss involved!

Are you available to your clients after the sale for long term follow-up help? Do you encourage your clients to contact you if the baby has a problem adjusting to its new home?

I am available to my clients 24/7. If they need to call me at 3am with a question; fine! I might snore on the phone a bit, but I'm available.  If a baby isn't adjusting to their new home, I almost demand to know! It's very important to me that my chicks go to a new home and feel secure and confident and that the new owner feels the same way!

There's such a limited time between the point of the baby leaving my home and re-establishing itself in its owners home that I can actually be of help specifically for that baby. After a couple of months, that baby has re-invented itself in its new home. So, the techniques I used won't particularly work well if they're not kept up by the new owner. However, that doesn't mean that I won't help brainstorm ideas or advise my owners where and when I can.

Do you provide references from people who have bought babies from you in the past year?

Absolutely!

Do you provide a written health guarantee with ample time for the buyer to get a vet check to determine that the bird is healthy?

I would love not to have a written health guarantee but a verbal one, but in today's world that's not worth very much to nervous buyers unfamiliar with me. I want buyers to be comfortable with their babies and secure in knowing their babies are healthy, so not only do I have a written guarantee, it's giving enough time to get a vet's visit without rushing the baby and over-stressing it right off the bat.

Do you have your babies microchipped, banded, or do you leave the issue of identification up to the buyer's discretion?

I use closed AFA logo leg bands on my babies. This is not only for identification purposes for me, but AFA bands are registered so if a bird gets lost and subsequently found later, the baby can be traced back to me, and through me, to the original owner.  There are a lot of stories out there about how dangerous leg bands are, but in reality, for the thousands of birds wearing properly fitting leg bands, only a handful have bad ends - and we don't know what the circumstances were in many cases. Were the bands too loose? Too tight? Unsafe toys? Who knows! This isn't a large enough amount for me to discount using leg bands. If a buyer wants the leg band removed off their baby, they are welcome to have a vet do this for them at a later date.

Do you have your babies tested for Psittacine Beak & Feather Disease before the sale?

I do not test my babies for PBFD. I do routinely test aviary birds for this and pet birds. Since I am a closed aviary, I can feel relatively secure my babies do not carry this after repeated testing of aviary birds and coming up clean.

Do you have your babies vaccinated against Polyoma?

I do not vaccinate against Polyoma. I have a closed aviary, and all my birds are polyoma tested. I don't test for several reasons. The first is that I don't have a vet here that will do it inexpensively. The second is that I don't have a vet here that believes in the vaccine enough TO do it. Third is that I don't know the long-term effects yet of this vaccine. Fourth, that limits the people interested in my babies as they have to vaccinate all their standing birds, or get birds that are vaccinated. So, I leave the vaccinating up to the new owners. It's their bird, thus, it should be their decision!

Have you ever had a major health problem such as PDD (Proventricular Dilatation Disease), PBFD (Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease), Polyoma or other diseases in your breeding establishment or has your flock experienced multiple unexplained deaths?

*Knock on wood* I have had no major health problems in my aviary, nor have I had any unexplained deaths.

Are necropsies performed 100% of the time in deaths from unknown cause in your establishment?

If a bird dies from an unknown cause, I get my necropsies done by Avian Diplomat Alan Fudge DVM.

Does anyone smoke in your birds' airspace?

There is absolutely no smoking around my breeders, pets or nursery birds whatsoever.

How often do you clean cages or aviaries and what disinfectants and pesticides do you use?

Our cages are cleaned between twice a week to every day depending on the level required (corn on the cob days are extra cage cleaning days!). We do not allow feces to build up in our cages or nest boxes whatsoever. The only time we hesitate to clean a cage is when a hen is actively laying; then we'll give her a few days before we tackle the cleaning. As for disinfectants, we use a product called Pet Focus for disinfecting cages, we use a Zoo pesticide that's non-toxic called Control, Scalex mite spray, and in the nursery, we use Nolvasan and Tek-tol for nursery disinfecting.

 

I hope this gives you a bit more information on how we do things here, and if you have further questions, feel free to ask!  Big thanks to Carol Swicegood for this wonderful 'Interview for Breeders' questionnaire found on her site http://www.eclectusville.com .